Prole Centre, what an appropriate handle for a Socialist demagogue!

Your first lie was when you tell Svetlana Voreskova that “Practically everything you say is wrong.” Everything she says is true, and doubly convincing because she lived under the Communist Regime of the USSR, so she actually knows what she is talking about. She is a History Lecturer by the way, so is also academically qualified to tell you about the history of Socialism in Russia. Nearly everything in the rest of your slogan-riddled diatribe is equally fact-free, except for the next sentence, which was 100% true: “I’m not sure where to begin, but arguing with you is clearly pointless.”

You should have taken your own advice and stopped there. It is pointless arguing with someone who is in full possession of the facts, and is far more intelligent than you are.

In spite of your left wing programming, the Nazis and the Soviets were practically the same: both ran Socialist totalitarian dictatorships, where the Party controlled the entire economy. The main difference was the Hitler did not nationalise businesses and kill the owners, he enslaved the owners who then ran their businesses as instructed by the Party. Both centrally planned the economy, with all production and distribution controlled by party officials. The difference between Fascists and Socialists is maintained by marketing and rhetoric: in reality they are as similar as Coke and Pepsi!

It is religious dogma for Socialists to believe Left = Socialist = Good, and Right = Fascist = Evil, but this is bullshit pushed by left wing school teachers who for some reason are happy to claim Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot as their own, but recoil in horror at the very similar Hitler. If they were honest, they would recoil in horror from all four mass-murdering Socialist Dictators.

I enjoyed your selection of Socialist Propaganda links:

Telesur is the Bolivarian propaganda site for Venezuela: hardly a convincing reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolivarian_propaganda

https://gowans.wordpress.com/2013/12/23/seven-myths-about-the-ussr/ This site “Just Left” lists Facts about the USSR but describes them as myths. That doesn’t make them so.

The Pew Research Centre at least tries to be non-partisan, and notes that older Russians are more likely to regret the breakup of the Soviet Union than young ones. I don’t think it is surprising given that the Soviet Socialist system was replaced not by democratic Capitalism, but by a Crony Capitalism controlled by former Communist officials who stole the property of the former Soviet Union for themselves. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/06/29/in-russia-nostalgia-for-soviet-union-and-positive-feelings-about-stalin/

https://prolecenter.wordpress.com/2017/10/08/actually-history-is-a-conspiracy-studies-in-intelligence-and-covert-operations/ is complete hokum: if this is where you get your “facts” from, no wonder you are so wrong! Hint: any Page that starts with “KGB: the good guys” should be treated with the contempt that statement deserves.

Thanks for the entertainment: if read as foolish satire, these sites make amusing reading. In answer to your question “How shall I refute your bogus claims?”, I can only answer “They are not bogus, and that is why you can’t refute them. And you use ‘bogus’ in a debate: how young are you?”

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Al Black

I work in IT, Community volunteer interested in Politics, support Capitalism as the best economic system for lifting people out of poverty, Skeptical scientist.